Nationalist Croatian Rock Star Causing a Stir in Cleveland

Marko Perkovic, who performs under the name "Thompson", is causing a bit of a stir in Cleveland as his upcoming concert continues to draw fierce criticism from the area's Serbian residents. Local Serbian residents claim that Perkovic's songs glorify Serbian ethnic cleansing.

Perkovic is currently scheduled to perform in Cleveland on November 9th. The Serbian Unity Congress has condemned his North American tour. Milosh Milenkovich, a resident of Cleveland and former President of the SUC, said that Perkovic's music is a glorification of fascism and genocide, and vows to protest his Ohio concert.

While performing a concert this summer in his home country of Croatia, Perkovic's audience gave Nazi salutes. Perkovic was banned from performing in the Netherlands due to his flirtations with neo-Nazism.

His supporters, however, claim that his music is merely about his love for his country during a time of civil war.

The Truth

Who is Marko Perkovic "Thompson?"

Marko Perkovic is Croatia's most prominent musician. He and his band go by the stage-name "Thompson." That was the nick-name given to him by his fellow soldiers during Croatia's 1991-1995 war of independence from Serbian-dominated communist Yugoslavia. The village he was born in, "Cavoglave," was on the front-lines of Serbian aggression during that turbulent period. He took part in the successful defense of his nation. The weapon he was issued was the American-made sub-machine gun, hence the nick-name Thompson. Marko Perkovic was quickly catapulted to fame by his patriotic song, "Cavoglave," dedicated to defenders from the village of his birth. The song inspired all Croatian defenders. It inspired Croatian civilians and Croatians all around the world at a very critical moment in the small nation's history. It was on that foundation that he built his career. And "Thompson" soon became a house-hold name.

What type of music does "Thompson" perform?
"Thompson" is a hard-rock/heavy-metal band. Many of the band's songs are comprised of ethno-elements, folk poetry and songs that have for centuries accompanied Croatian folk-dances. "Thompson" has also been known to perform and record pop-songs.

What does Marko Perkovic sing about?
Marko Perkovic and his band are certainly not one-dimensional. Earlier in his career, Perkovic recorded many love songs to accompany hits that were centered around Croatian social themes. Since his career took off during Croatia's fight for independence, many of his songs were about the liberation of Croatia. Croatia gained official international recognition in 1992. Croatia was officially and legitimately liberated in 1995. Contrary to negative propaganda and outright lies, Thompson’s songs inspired Croatians during the liberation of their homeland. Thompson also recorded songs depicting the plight of Croatian soldiers after the war. Stories about the experiences similar to those of Vietnam Vets in the United States after returning from war. With his more recent albums, Thompson has centered the themes of his songs on the natural scenic beauty of Croatia and three social values that the overwhelming majority of Croatians hold dear: God, family and the homeland. His music has never glorified war-criminals from the past or present. These accusations are simply preposterous.

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God, Family and the Homeland
Thompson has on numerous occasions challenged anyone opposed to him or his music to prove their false claims and accusations. He has challenged all his critics to listen to his songs, obtain translations of his lyrics, and finally learn the truth about his music. Once again, the main themes of Thompson's songs are about God, family and the homeland. Many critics, purposely or not, misinterpret his music as political activism. Perhaps it because of the message his songs emit. Messages of faith in God, love of family and homeland. A far cry from a nationalist or extremist, Thompson is simply a patriot. Something he willingly admits. These are themes hardly worthy of controversy and the kind of negative publicity surrounding him and his band.

Thompson does NOT perform anthems that glorify war-criminals, concentration camps or genocide
The worst of all false accusations flung at Thompson is that he is the author of a song called: "Jasenovac & Gradiska Stara." Contrary to fallacious propaganda and claims, Thompson is not the author of this song. He does not, nor has he ever, performed it live. It cannot be found on any of Thompson's seven albums. We challenge all his critics and accusers to listen to all of his recorded work and learn the truth for themselves. Once again, we challenge all to obtain copies of his official albums; and kindly ask to refrain from viewing or listening to propagandistic montages constructed and posted on the Internet by anonymous Thompson-haters. The song is simply not his.

Why, then, does so much controversy revolve around Thompson?
Since the end of World War II, the Croatian nation was systematically stigmatized by the Serbian-dominated communist government of Yugoslavia. For 45 yrs., any hint of Croatian patriotism was extinguished by the state's apparatus, most commonly under the false indictment of “fascist“ or “Nazi“ separatism. To accompany the murder and imprisonment of Croatian patriots within Yugoslavia and around the world, negative propaganda about Croatians was disseminated by Belgrade's information services. This was purposely done with the objective of squashing any activism around the world. Within years, the Croatian nation became synonymous with that of the Nazis. Sadly, in many cases of western literature, the false accusation stuck.

With his songs, Thompson has for some reason warranted the ire of many anti-Croatian Greater-Serbian nationalists and their well-paid public-relation mouthpieces their lobbies employ. They have still not come to terms that they were on the losing side of a war of aggression that Milosevic’s Serbia committed against Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina. They have still not come to terms with the fact that Croatia is an independent country proud of its recent victory on the battle-field against criminal aggression. Croatia's enemies have since conducted a defamation campaign against all Croats, not just Thompson. It is their hope to stifle Croatia’s chance at entry into the European Union. Thompson is very popular among Croatians that are old enough to remember the war years in the early 1990s. And the band quickly became a natural target for Croatia's enemies. The defamation campaign is spear-headed by negative propaganda identical to the kind spread world-wide during communist Yugoslavia. Propaganda that basically equates the entire Croatian nation and its identity to Nazism. It appears that not even a simple musician can escape anti-Croatian bias. This type of propaganda war-fare should not be surprising to American eyes or ears. We ask all interested to try and understand the political/social landscape of once war-torn South Central Europe. Starting from that position, it will be much easier to understand today’s relations between peoples of the former Yugoslavia.

Thompson performed in Frankfurt, Germany on April 21, 2007
As you probably know by now, Thompson is very popular in Croatian emigrant communities around the world. He has sold out concerts in Australia, Canada and Germany. Just to name a few countries. Thompson played a packed Ballsporthalle in Frankfurt, Germany on April 21, 2007. We’d like to remind you that the concert was held in the heart of Germany. A nation with the most stringent of anti-bias and anti-hate laws that exist anywhere in the world. When German authorities translated Thompson’s lyrics, something we ask all of you to do, they soon learned what the band is really about. And the show went on as planned. We find it extremely hard to believe that Thompson’s most vocal critics are not aware of this. Once again, we remind you that Thompson performed a successful show in Frankfurt, Germany. The concert and the translation of lyrics made by German authorities were reported by major media-outlets in that country. As correctly and truthfully reported in the newspapers Allgemeine Zeitung and Frankfurter Allgemeine, Thompson’s lyrics neither promote, nor incite, violence.

There has never been a violent incident at a Thompson concert
Because of many false accusations and outright lies, we’d like to mention that there has never been an incident at any of Thompson’s many concerts. Whether in Frankfurt, Germany or Zagreb, Croatia-- Thompson‘s concerts, naturally, always conclude peacefully. Just another fact that proves the critics wrong.

Marko Perkovic is a musician
Marko Perkovic is a Croatian patriot that loves his country dearly. He is not a member of any political party in Croatia, nor does he have any affiliation to political or activist groups within or outside the country. Marko Perkovic Thompson is just a musician.
Just as we Americans love our country, Perkovic loves his. Just as Jewish-Americans love their heritage and Israel, Perkovic loves Croatia. And so do Croatian-Americans. So do Croatians world-wide. With his music, Perkovic simply sings of patriotism and love of the Croatian heritage. His songs inspire many Croats to live honest lives, cherish family, honor God and be faithful to the homeland. To Croatians in the United States, this translates into the respect of not only the Croatian heritage, but of respect to our American heritage; into respect for the great nation that in the past granted amnesty to Croatians that sought refuge and freedom from oppression. The incessant attacks against this very successful musician are simply baseless and unwarranted.

im from canada and i cannot

im from canada and i cannot agree more with this comment. i hold family god and croatia close to my heart. as should every other person in any other country. stop fighting thompson and his music he is what he is; a singer and nothing more and nothing less

A few things about Croatia in WW2

A lot of people seem to forget that Croatia was not a Nazi State, a Nazi puppet State yes, but no Croatian was part of that political party.Croatia, during these dark times, was deeply divided in political terms, almost more than half of the active population (!!!) joined the Partisans or had sympathies for them, there were only about 1500 Ustasa soldiers (some sort of elite troops, regular army was called Domobrani and they were not involved in slaughtering people just because they were not Croatians) in Croatia at that time (Ustasa were fascists and they did murder a lot of people like Serbs, Gypsies, Jews, Croatians with other political views,...) but to say that Croatians are antisemitic is ridiculous, they never have been and will never be.Thompson is a singer, and that's it.As far as I remember he never mentioned anything in his songs that would made him a fascist or, unbelievable to me, a Nazi.I think there's too much talk about nothing...he is just an artist and not a criminal.

Truth about Croatia i WWII

This person must be a catholic priest or ex ustasa.
He has gut to claim there was only 1500 ustasha in Croatia??? What is this Hollywood kids story, or Disneyland? Who did then all these mass killings of civilian population in Croatia and BiH?? Ghosts???
Beside the facts that many catholic priests were among them during WWII, and before in German attack. Most of them were "fifth column" working pro-naci behind the defense lines of old Yugoslav army! There are many evidences of bloodsheed comited by catholic priests together with ustashe criminals. Beside this Stepinac, as one of the bloodyest cardinal in last century was bussy blessing the weapons of ustashe during the WWII....

Real Truth about Thompson by Wiesenthal Center

Here is a press release by an objective organization:

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=fwLYKnN8LzH&b=245494&ct=4555931

News Releases

October 25, 2007

WIESENTHAL CENTER URGES NEW YORK ARCHDIOCESE TO DISASSOCIATE ITSELF FROM CONCERT OF A CROATIAN ROCK SINGER WHO CELEBRATES ETHNIC CLEANSING AND GENOCIDE IN HIS MUSIC

The Simon Wiesenthal Center calls on the New York Archdiocese to distance itself from Croatian rock star Marko Perkovic, also known as “Thompson,” whose repertoire includes songs glorifying ethnic cleansing, and whose followers were photographed giving the Ustashe salute. Perkovic’s concert in New York is scheduled to take place in a venue that, according to reports, is owned by a Catholic Church in midtown Manhattan. Moreover, tickets for the concert are being sold at the Croatian Catholic Church. In a letter to Cardinal Edward Egan, Mark Weitzman, Director of the Center’s Task Force Against Hate, wrote in part,

“Any glorification of the Ustashe regime, with its murderous record against Jews, Serbs and other Croats, especially one that uses popular culture to appeal to a new generation, must be firmly rejected. I urge you to take the lead on this issue, and to reaffirm the Church's commitment against antisemitism, intolerance and violence by making sure that there is no connection between the Church and Perkovic that could in any way imply support of his hateful positions.”

Center officials have also been in touch with Croatian diplomats in an effort to urge the Croatian government to live up to its international obligations to repudiate the singer and to ensure that institutions connected to the government do not give Perkovic any support.

Further concerts on the US tour are scheduled for Los Angeles and Cleveland. In Toronto, the owners of the hall where the concert was scheduled was cancelled after protests by the Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and others. Authorities in Vancouver have indicated that they planned to send members of the Hate Crimes Unit to monitor the show. “Inviting this man to sing in North America is tantamount to inviting a singer to extol ethnic cleansing in Darfur,” said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Wiesenthal Center. “Croatia today is a free country but in a democracy, those who celebrate the genocidal Ustashe regime deserve condemnation, not accommodation,” he concluded.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is one of the largest international Jewish human rights organizations with over 400,000 member families in the United States. It is an NGO at international agencies including the United Nations, UNESCO, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe.

For more information, contact the Mark Weitzman, 212-370-0320 or the Center's Public Relations department, 310-553-9036

I think Simon Wiesenthal

I think Simon Wiesenthal Center should remind their own people to live up to UN resolutions,stop nuclear race,stop building a wall for separation,stop daily killing of palastinians (one half are innocent woman and children),stop bringing more settlers etc..To do all this in the name of protection,self-defense is a joke!All this is more of ethnic cleansing then "inviting this man to sing",since this man sings about God,Family and Country!!( maybe Jewish people sing about same things ??)If SWC cares about human rights,then they should focus first on their own garden!

REAL truth about Thompson - The Washington Post

Here's a source I would consider more *objective' than SWC.
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Rocking The Boat
Marko Perkovic Is Said to Have Fascist Leanings, But He Played From a Different Songbook in N.Y.

By David Segal
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 5, 2007; Page C01

NEW YORK Here is what we knew about Marko Perkovic before he performed two concerts in Manhattan this weekend:

He's a popular Croatian rock star, accused for years of stoking fascist sentiments among fans in his homeland. Some of these fans show up at concerts wearing T-shirts and symbols that celebrate the Ustase regime, which collaborated with the Nazis during World War II and operated two concentration camps. We know, too, that the Simon Wiesenthal Center denounced Perkovic, who was slated to appear here in a hall attached to a Catholic church, leading to this memorable headline in the New York Daily News: "Jewish Groups Protest Show of Nazi Band at Church Hall."

Croatian rock star Marko Perkovic, performing in Zagreb, generated protest buzz, but not much action, for his Manhattan performances. (Associated Press)

So what do we know now that the concerts went ahead, as planned?

The man digs British heavy metal, circa 1975.

And he looks good in black.

"Nazi band"? Nuh-uh. Perkovic, 42, did not "sieg heil" nor did he rant against the Serbs, Jews or any other group, according to the many Croatians who were happy to interpret during the show. (Perkovic does not speak English.) Instead, in the community center of the Croatian Church of Sts. Cyril & Methodius in Midtown, he sang a lot of fervently nationalistic, mid-tempo rock songs, most of which sounded like Iron Maiden doing Eastern European folk. And he harped again and again on his favorite themes: love of God, family and Croatia. Especially Croatia, which in his music sounds like a place abused for centuries and still under siege.

"To battle, to battle for your people," he sang at one point -- that's a translation, of course -- and the words briefly turned into a chant for the room of 600 fans. Combat imagery is part of the brand that is Perkovic, a former soldier who fought against Serbian troops in the war that raged between 1991 and 1995 and who sings under the stage name Thompson, which he took from his submachine gun.

But somehow, the show Saturday night felt more like a family get-together than a flag-waving rally. Most of the attendees were in their 30s and 40s -- a younger crowd showed up on Friday night -- and everyone seemed to know one another.

"He's singing about how beautiful Croatia is," said Mary Ann Lakoseljac, who came with her sister and parents. Like a lot of people, she sounded a little offended by the fuss about Perkovic. "Seriously, they don't even call the Germans 'Nazis' anymore. But you hear that about Croatians all the time."

Now, it's quite possible, of course, that Perkovic delivered a bile-free act tailored for this city. You know -- ixnay on the Ascism-fay, or something like that. Certainly, he knew he was under scrutiny. In the lead up to the show, the Wiesenthal Center publicly asked Cardinal Edward Egan to block the event from happening in a church-affiliated venue. "I urge you to take the lead on this issue and to reaffirm the church's commitment against anti-Semitism, intolerance and violence," wrote Mark Weitzman of the center's Task Force Against Hate and Terrorism.

That did it. On Friday, the night of the first show, the controversy had drawn a handful of camera crews from local TV stations, as well as about 10 protesters, who were ushered by cops to the opposite side of the street, where they began chanting slogans like "Nazis out of New York, Nazis out, Nazis out!" You could sense the media and the protesters trying to turn this into a newsworthy spectacle, but it never quite jelled. There weren't quite enough protesters, for one thing, and none of them really had particularly compelling evidence that Perkovic is a Nazi.

"We actually got a call from the Village Voice about this," said Greg Pason, who helped organize the outing. "We got this white supremacist club in Bergen County shut down recently, and so the Voice called us and asked if we were doing anything about the show. We didn't know anything about it till all the papers started covering."

His beef with Perkovic: "We think this is an ultranationalist show and exactly the sort of thing that people should stand up against."

The protesters' chanting, naturally, infuriated the fans who had to wait in line and get jeered at for a good 20 minutes. A few of them offered an obscene gesture or two. Just one -- an immense 20ish guy who would not give his name -- turned up wearing an objectionable shirt, one that had a small "U" on it, under a photo of a former Croatian general who now stands accused of war crimes.

The "U" stands for Ustase.

"You know, this is all overboard, it's all a big hype," he said, with two news cameras filming him. "This guy's no different than Billy Joel or Bruce Springsteen. This is about pride. Nothing but pride."

Uh-huh. What's the U stand for?

"I don't know," he said, adding, "We're done."

But he was the exception. Most fans were eager to offer a lesson in a history that stretches back centuries and involves antipathies that seem fantastically complicated and deep-seated. The danger of a Perkovic show, it turns out, is not that there will be hate speech. It's that there will be lectures.

"Croatia is a very peaceful place," said Kathy Jurac. "We've been occupied by the Turks, by the Austrians, by the Hungarians, by the Italians, and we have for years. That's why our independence means so much to us. And that's why it hurts Thompson that generals he fought with are in jail, accused of atrocities."

For the organizers of the show, all the negative attention put them in a defensive crouch.

"No media are allowed in the show," said promoter George Corluka. "It's not my decision. It's up to the church." Perkovic, he added, was devastated by the terrible hubbub that preceded him in the United States and would not speak to any members of the print media in this country because no one would treat him fairly.

This reporter purchased tickets on Craigslist.com on Saturday afternoon.

"Okay, you're the only media in here," Corluka said, a few songs into the concert. "We'll see if you're fair. We'll see."

The attempted journalist blockade might have raised the expectations bar a little high. No offense, Mr. Corluka, but musically Perkovic and his band are kind of mundane; they sound, at moments, like the Gipsy Kings doing "Dust in the Wind." The charm of songs like "Geni Kameni" is perhaps in the lyrics -- and they don't translate all that well:

Genes, genes made of stone

A fire burns within me

Genes, genes made of stone

That's the way we are born

Take it or leave it.

This, of course, sounds different to Croatian ears. There, Perkovic is considered not just an entertainer but a political phenomenon, says Srdjan Dvornik, executive director of the Helsinki Committee for Human Rights, who spoke yesterday as he was heading home to Zagreb.

"After the war with the Serbs, there was never a real confronting with the past," he said. "Nobody ever admitted that Croatia, as part of a defensive war, committed acts of ethnic cleansing. So the myth of the Croatians as collective victims is still alive. But now it's just left to people like Thompson to express that myth publicly."

I disagree with the post

I disagree with the post mentioned earlier about the Simon Wiesenthal press release. It is in NO way objective. It is subjective, full of bias and opinion. No one from the Wiesenthal centre bothered to ask Croatians their knowledge on this matter, nor have they even bothered asking for translations of Thompson's songs. That to me is not democratic.

In peace and love.

i agreee with this

Thompson he sings about religion, love, and God and to his country.
we are all people and we have our own likes and dislikes.
and the Croation people love to listen to his music.
i just dont understand how people cant except the fact that they love him.
Heres an example what if your favorite singer came into town and people from your own town start prostesting against him.
u wouldnt be too happy.right?
thats why im trying to make a point here, thompson is a very good singer, he puts his time into writing his own music, and his music makes alot of sense.
And the people that are protesting they might live next to a croation person or even might be friends with them.Why cant we all just get along and all be friends and stop this hatred among each other? I just dont understand why people are making a big deal about this? Because i know for a fact a Croation person would NEVER prostes against your countrys famous singer no matter what other people think of the singer.
Thats why i think we should stop this nonsense and all stop the hatred toward each other.And i dont like to see people go against each other.
And i think he should sing On Friday, and i think he deserves to sing.

Nonsense

I have followed the career of this man for quite sometime on the Internet. I am a Croatian American who is also a musician as well. I can't say I enjoy the style of music but the accusations are absurd! As for the "WIESENTHAL CENTER"....who really cares? This organization along with many others at one point condemned the honoring of Cardinal Stepinanc....a move in which they have no business being involved. Nobody dare ever question the faith of Judaism or what they do within their religion because to do so would be anti-Semitic. Let's quit questioning rock stars and start asking "WIESENTHAL CENTER" what happened in Jenin (Palestine). How come the U.N. was not allowed to enter for over a week? What about the recent war in Lebanon? Where's the truth there? I'm more concerned about the recent killings in these lands then what some musician has to say on stage!

The SWC should worry more

The SWC should worry more about Israel not complying with UN resolutions all this years,with starting a nuclear race in region,with building a wall for separation (self defense and protection is a poor excuse,it's more of ethnic cleansing),bringing more settlers inn,daily torture and killings of Palestinians (innocent woman,children!!),flying and bombing neighboring states (preventing or starting ?!) etc..IF SWC is a human organization they have more to worry about then a singer from Croatia!

Thompson is awesome. All he

Thompson is awesome. All he sings about is our contry and how much he loves it! And we will definately all go to his concert and support our man THOMPSON! Zivio!

I Love Thompson

It is clear whats happening...Serbian and jewish propaganda. Im amazed at the AUDACITY these two nations have in critisizing a singer who is in no way a fascist or nazi. How about serbia, with their policy on Ethnic cleansing when that pig Milosevic was in power? How about the Israeli's killing and torturing innocent women and children in palestine on a daily basis? Do the jew's remember begina nd what HE did?I for one am DISGUSTED with the lies being said about croats and thompson. It sickens me how only one side is always heard, but the Croatian side is continually ignored. ZIVILA HRVATSKA!!! I am a PROUD Croat!

Oppose Thompson's Fascist Tour with the Truth

http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/tour.htm

by Jared Israel
Member, International Commission on Jasenovac
Editor, Emperor's Clothes

[Nov. 3, 2007]

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Croatian rock star Marko Perkovic 'Thompson' has just begun a US-Canadian tour, with two concerts in New York (Nov. 2 and 3), followed by concerts in Toronto (Nov. 4, reportedly cancelled), Cleveland (Nov. 9), Chicago (Nov. 10), Los Angeles (Nov. 11), Vancouver (Nov. 16), and San Francisco (Nov. 18.) Full details are in footnote [1].

Emperor's Clothes has proven that Thompson is a self-declared Ustasha - a Croatian clerical-fascist. [See http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/times1.htm#sing ]
(Clerical-fascist ideology indoctrinates with a mixture of Nazi-type racism and Catholic religious fanaticism.) The Ustasha movement murdered over a million people from 1941-1945. The overwhelming majority were Serbs (Slavs who are Orthodox Christian, i.e., non-Catholic), but they also killed most Jews and Roma ('Gypsies') in the greater Croatia that they ruled.

It is chilling that one can find videos on Youtube, such as the one below, in which people at Thompson's June 2007 concert in Zagreb, Croatia, are heard chanting "Ubij, Ubij, Ubij Serbina." It means "Kill, kill, kill a Serb."

[See video at http://tinyurl.com/yruy68
If you get a message that the video has been removed from Youtube, see footnote [2] for an alternative.]

This tour by Thompson's band, also called 'Thompson' (after the Thompson submachine gun), has produced justified outrage. It is an attempt to legitimize clerical-fascism. If Thompson - whose politics would logically lead to the murder of millions of North Americans, including African-Americans and other so-called 'non-whites,' Jews, people of Serbian descent and others of the Orthodox Christian faith, progressives, and anyone (teachers? trade unionists?) who dared to resist the clerical-fascists - if Thompson can carry out this tour successfully, it will be a victory for fascism.

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Harmful ideas in the anti-Thompson camp

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It is crucial that in opposing the tour, we explain the politics of clerical-fascism to the broadest possible audience. Those politics cannot survive scrutiny; in the end, they cannot survive without the use of terror.

Unfortunately, among those organizing opposition to the tour, there is much unclarity about the issues.

For example, in explaining why his group asked the management of a concert hall to cancel Thompson's Toronto appearance (with apparent success), Leo Adler, national affairs director of the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC), said "Thompson has been singing for years in Croatia" and:

"One of those songs - titled Jasanovic/Stara Gardinska [Correction; Jasenovac i Gradishka Stara. - J.I.], which Thompson sang live in Croatia in 2002 - venerated those two infamous concentration camps where at least 90,000 Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and anti-fascist Croatians were murdered by the Ustashe movement and its Nazi collaborators during World War II."

-- Canada News Wire, Oct. 23, 2007 [3]

[The analysis of the text of the "Jasenovac i Gradishka Stara" song is at http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#reb

Proof that Thompson sang "Jasenovac i Gradishka Stara" is at
http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#sing

About the Ustashe see Yad Vashem's "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" at
http://tenc.net/croatia/encr.htm#II ]

The problem is, Mr. Adler has reduced the number of people the Ustashe murdered in the Jasenovac death camp complex by around 90% - one full order of magnitude - in complete contradiction to all non-Ustasha, Western estimates (such as in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust - see http://tenc.net/croatia/encr.htm#III ) published prior to the onset of Western support for the Ustashe's return to power in Croatia in 1990. It is as if he had said that 'at least 600,000 Jews were murdered in Europe during the 1940s.'

History is a battleground of politics in the present. As Simon Wiesenthal told the Washington Post in 1993, regarding the attempt by Croatia's Ustasha-apologist leader, Franjo Tudjman, to cut the number of Jasenovac victims by one order of magnitude:

"The long-term danger is that he is building a way for a new Ustashe." [4]

We are in Wiesenthal's long-term, today.

I charge that clerical-fascism now controls Croatia; that it is spreading, sponsored by Germany, the U.S., and the leadership of the Catholic Church.

If I am wrong, then why, knowing what Thompson is - for example, knowing that, until 2002, when it became an embarrassment for Croatia's Western sponsors, this top rock star sang two songs celebrating the Holocaust [see http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#sing ] in which he boasted that the Ustashe had returned and that he was one of them [see http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#reb ] - knowing all this, why does Croatia's parliament-controlled TV continue to broadcast his concerts? [5]

Why have the US and Canadian governments granted him visas?

Why, when Thompson not only advocates fascist politics but presents himself as a super-militant Catholic, as indicated in the pictures below:

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The Thompson home page features images of the St. Benedict's medal, most devout of Catholic medallions, which Thompson wears at concerts,

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and of a Catholic church that Thompson is raising money to build.

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At concerts, Marko Perkovic raises his trademark Catholic Crusader's sword above his head

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and plunges it into the stage floor, staring ahead sternly...

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The Crusader's sword forms a military cruciform, symbol of religious war.

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Just to make sure people know that his trademark sword is a religious symbol, not some dungeons and dragons-type iconography,

[ http://emperor.vwh.net/pix/swordcross-s.jpg ]
on album covers Thompson adorns it with a rosary and cross, colored red to remind Catholics of "our savior's blood."

Photo credits and links, see footnote [6]
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...why, given Thompson's public self-definition as singer-prophet of the church militant, has the Catholic hierarchy not condemned his clerical-fascism and prohibited Catholics from attending his concerts?

Why, instead, has the Croatian Catholic church sponsored him and championed him politically? [See http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#what ]

Those organizing opposition to Thompson scrupulously avoid mentioning the role of the Catholic church. But the fact that the Catholic hierarchy promotes Thompson raises a basic question: to what extent is that hierarchy promoting clerical-fascist ideas among the vast Catholic population, worldwide?

Look at the boys in the photo below. One sports the Thompson sword-cross, the other the Ustasha 'U.'

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[ http://emperor.vwh.net/pix/legija-s.jpg ]
In the Eastern Soviet Union, elsewhere in Eastern Europe, and in the Balkans, the Nazis' local, clerical-fascist junior partners, such as the Croatian SS 'Crna Legija,' or 'Black Legion,' were known for the pleasure they took in their work, massacring Jews, Orthodox Slavs, and 'Gypsies.' In the photo above, taken at the Thompson concert in the Maksimir stadium in Zagreb this past June, a boy of 12 or 13 wears a Ustasha 'Black Legion' SS T-shirt, complete with the Ustasha 'U.'

Photo credits and links, see footnote [6]
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Who is teaching these children?

In 1998, the Croatian news agency HINA quoted Croatian president Franjo Tudjman saying that Croatia is a place:

"in which the Catholic Church has a full opportunity to work in the spirit of its principles and to the benefit of the people within which it lives."

-- BBC Monitoring Europe, September 28, 1998 [7]

*"In the spirit of its principles and to the benefit of the people in which it lives."*

The late Mr. Tudjman was a clerical-fascist; therefore, clerical-fascism determined his notion of "benefit." However, regarding the specific question of the influence of the Catholic church, and not just in Croatia, he was speaking accurately.

Since the Catholic church aggressively champions Thompson in public [see http://tenc.net/croatia/times1.htm#what ], the question is: what are they teaching children in the former Socialist states, and elsewhere, in private?

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New York Times spreads Croatian Holocaust revisionism

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To return to the matter of Mr. Adler's erasure of 90% of the Jasenovac victims, perhaps he was misinformed. Perhaps by the New York Times.

In a widely-circulated Times article analyzing Thompson's huge June 17, 2007 concert in Zagreb's Maksimir stadium [see http://tinyurl.com/2nnvl5 ], Nicholas Wood wrote:

[Times article starts here]

ZAGREB, Croatia, June 30 -- On a hot Sunday evening in June, thousands of fans in a packed stadium here in the Croatian capital gave a Nazi salute as the rock star Marko Perkovic shouted a well-known slogan from World War II.

Some of the fans were wearing the black caps of Croatia's infamous Nazi puppet Ustashe government, which was responsible for sending tens of thousands of Serbs, Gypsies and Jews to their deaths in concentration camps."

-- New York Times, July 2, 2007 [8]

[As regards what Wood calls "a well-known slogan from World War II," see
http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/times1.htm#zadom ]

[Times article ends here]

There are two important falsehoods in the excerpt above. One has to do with the concert, the other with Croatian death camps.

First, regarding Thompson's Maksimir stadium concert, it isn't true that "thousands" of fans gave the Nazi salute. It was *tens of thousands*.

According to local news estimates, 50-60,000 people packed into the stadium. They were listening to music, but they were also expressing their clerical-fascist beliefs.
The pictures below were taken at that concert. (All credits are in footnote [6].) As the pictures show, some people expressed their clerical-fascism individually:

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[Pictures]

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In the photo above, taken at Thompson's June concert in the Maksimir stadium in Zagreb, the boy wears a t-shirt displaying Thompson's trademark Crusader's sword (also seen on the concert tour bus [ http://emperor.vwh.net/pix/bussmall.jpg ]) and the Ustasha slogan "za dom spremni" ('for home, ready').

What's on the back of the shirt?

[ http://emperor.vwh.net/pix/kidback-a.jpg ]
On the back of the shirt, the words 'Crna Legija,' or 'Black Legion,' the infamous Croatian SS military force that massacred hundreds of thousands of Serbs and other so-called "foreign elements," wiping out entire villages. In the song "Jasenovac i Gradishka Stara," which Thompson admitted singing from the early 1990s until 2002, he boasted that the 'Black Legion' had returned. The 'U' on the shirt stands for Hitler's beloved Ustasha. The checkerboard motif in the center is from the Ustasha flag; it was resurrected along with the Croatian Ustashe, who have been back in power since 1990.
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...and sometimes they expressed their clerical-fascism collectively:

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[Pictures]

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A Hitler salute and, on the upper right of the banner, a 'U' for 'Ustasha.' And everyone wears Thompson shirts.

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The women are wearing Ustasha caps.
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Perhaps the most chilling thing is how normal everything looks. These are not people on the fringe; they are the mainstream, with their fascist caps, fascist t-shirts and fascist slogans and salutes:

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[Picture]

[ http://emperor.vwh.net/pix/manyhands.jpg ]
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...and they are organized. Including the children.

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[Picture]

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There is something familiar here. At first, you cannot place it, but then, watching the concert video below, it dawns on you: this has the look and feel of one of the Nazis' Nuremberg rallies, modern style:

[See video at http://tinyurl.com/yutgtw
If you get a message that the video has been removed from Youtube, see footnote [2] for an alternative.]

...and virtually everyone is involved:

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[Picture]

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Above, a section of a Thompson concert photo. The full picture was too large for this page, but can be viewed at http://tinyurl.com/2jqj8v
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The people in the picture above are giving the Nazi salute in response to Thompson's chanting of what Mr. Wood called "a well-known slogan from World War II." The slogan, Za Dom Spremni ("For Home, Ready"), was the favorite of Croatia's clerical-fascist rulers. It meant: Ready to do anything to 'purify' Croatia from "foreign elements." Serbs, Roma and Jews.

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[Picture]

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Za dom spremni - For Home, Ready!

The Order of the 'Iron Trefoil,' the military medal of Hitler's favorites, the Croatian Ustashe. 10-IV-1941 (April 10, 1941) was the day on which the Nazi forces invading Yugoslavia reached Zagreb and installed the Ustashe as the clerical-fascist rulers of greater Croatia. It is tragic but true that Croats have been indoctrinated to view this as a great victory by and for Croats.

Source: http://users.skynet.be/hendrik/eng/Cr-Trefoil.html
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Not having access to the pictures and videos above, most Times readers would have no way of knowing that Nicholas Wood minimized the number of people giving the Nazi salute, reporting that there were *thousands* when in fact there were *tens of thousands*.

Was he trying to soften the horror? One wouldn't think so; after all, he talks about "Croatia's infamous Nazi puppet Ustashe government," which makes him sound like an anti-fascist.

Because he does sound anti-fascist, and because he is writing in the respected New York Times, people would be unlikely to suspect that, in claiming the Ustashe were -

"responsible for sending *tens of thousands of Serbs, Gypsies and Jews* to their deaths in concentration camps" [9] (my emphasis - J.I.)

- Wood was erasing most of the victims.

How could readers know that, prior to Croatia's 1991 secession from Yugoslavia, the New York Times had reported that the Ustashe murdered *800,000 people* at the Jasenovac death camp?

This apart from the toll at other Croatian death camps, and the hundreds of thousands of people the Ustasha SS military force, the Crna Legija (Black Legion), massacred in their villages. See poster below:

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[Picture]

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A recruiting poster for the Croatian Ustasha SS force, known as the 'Black Legion.' Ustasha ideology was fanatically Catholic and targeted "foreign elements," but the Ustashe defined local Muslims as 'Croats,' and worked closely with Muslim extremists. This poster, aimed partly at Muslims, shows one soldier wearing a fez, the hat of fanatical Islam, and includes a minaret (part of a mosque) in the background.

Top line: "Croats of Herzeg-Bosna!" Underneath: the crooked double-S of the Nazi SS, plus a checkerboard, motif of the Ustasha flag, which was brought back when Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia in 1991 for the second time in 50 years. (The first time was on Apr. 10, 1941, the day German troops marched into Zagreb, Croatia.)

The caption reads: "Great leaders Adolf Hitler and poglavnik [fuehrer] Dr. Ante Pavelic call you to defend your homes. Join volunteer units of Croatian SS."

Source: Pro-Ustasha website, http://zadom.page.tl/Galerija-slika/pic-33.htm
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From "800,000" to "tens of thousands" of Holocaust victims. And this not in a recognized revisionist rag, but in the New York Times.

The Times routinely publishes corrections of errors. If the 800,000 figure had been an error, the editors would have published a correction, explaining the reason for the change.

They did not. They never presented any justification for their 90% cut. They simply erased the old figure and brought in the new, telling readers nothing, repeatedly publishing their 90% cut, from 1991 to the present.

An act of monumental duplicity? Yes.

But why did they do it?

The Times first published their new victim count in March of 1991, two months before Croatia launched its war of secession against Yugoslavia. I charge that in thus rewriting Yugoslav history, the leading newspaper of the US establishment was:

A) Signaling the Establishments in other countries that the U.S. was supporting the rebirth of clerical-fascist movements in the former socialist states;

B) Signaling other media worldwide to follow their lead in suppressing the important historical information that a) the Serbs had played a crucial role in the fight against fascism [see http://tenc.net/a/times410326-t.htm ] and b) the Serbs, along with Jews, Russians, and Roma/Sinti, had suffered the greatest losses from the Nazis and their allies (in the Serbs' case, the Croatian Ustashe) precisely in punishment for Serbian opposition to fascism. By keeping this historical perspective from ordinary people, the media could prevent them from becoming suspicious of propaganda that portrayed Croatian secessionists using Ustasha symbols and chanting fascist slogans, as victims of genocide; Serbs expressing quite legitimate fear of returned Ustasha power, as 'new Nazis'; and Yugoslavia, created to defend the Balkans against outside pressure (meaning, historically, Germany and the Vatican), as the cause of strife in that region.

By surreptitiously and massively revising what had happened in World War II, the Times was, in Simon Wiesenthal's words, "building a way for a new Ustashe."

I have made a most serious charge. Let me present the proof.

[ - continued in part 2 - ]

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* Footnotes and Further Reading *

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Because of space limitations posting here, footnotes are not included. They can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/tour.htm

Serbia: Quisling Collaboration with the Nazis in WW2

Excerpts from
FROM FAIRY TALE TO HOLOCAUST

Ljubica Stefan
Zagreb, 1993

Serbia: Quisling Collaboration with the Occupier during the period of the Third Reich with reference to Genocide against the Jewish people

Contents
I. The Yids
II. Judenfrei
III. Philosemites

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II Judenfrei
As nazism spread over Europe, the persecution and genocide of the Jews began in many European countries. So with the coming of the Nazi authorities in Serbia in April 1941 the occasion arose for certain circles to "finally settle" the problem of the Jews in their own milieu.

The German occupiers found collaboration across the board in Serbia:
"At the beginning of May 1941, the Germans gave the civil administration over to the so-called Council of the Commissariat for Serbia, at the head of which was Milan Acimovic. The tasks of the Commissariat were administrative and political, and economic. First of all it had to work towards the pacification of the country and the support of the system of military occupation. In effect the Commissariat was the executor of the orders of the occupier..."

After the Third Reich passed an order on August 28, 1941, abolishing the Commissariat, a civil government was formed "whose president was a general of the former Yugoslav army Milan Nedic... Nedic created armed units, the so-called Nedic army".

Apart from these units, there were also the so-called Voluntary Army of Dimitrij Ljotic and the chetniks of Kosta Pecanac and Draza Mihailovic. In 1976, documents relevant to the years 1941 - 1944 were published in Belgrade in an archival reviews under the title "The collaboration of D. Mihailovic's Chetniks with the enemy forces of occupation".

The original documents were collected by the Serbian scholars Dr Jovan Marjanovic and his collaborator Mihail Stanisic. The explanation in the forward runs:
"The chetniks of Draza Mihailovic were represented as fighters against the occupier, while in fact they were the allies of the Nazi fascists in Yugoslavia... This collection covers documents from the war years of 1941-44. Documents from 1945 have not been included here because by that time the Chetnik units of D. Mihailovic had become wholly incorporated in the German front in Yugoslavia... The documents in this collection indicate clearly and unequivocally that the Chetniks collaborated with the occupiers, both in the military and political sphere, as well as in the domain of economic activity, intelligence and propaganda..." The chetniks of Draza Mihailovic mainly "looked after" the "solving" of the problem of the communists.

The "solving" of the "problem" of the Jews began as quickly as a week after the German army catered Belgrade, with the whole- hearted support of the Serbian government.

Within the Gestapo structures in Belgrade a commission for Jewish questions was set up, in which the city administration as it then was had its representative. With the help of the Belgrade city administration the occupier formed the so-called Hebrew police, which in fact represented one section of the city of Belgrade administration."

"The chief of the Hebrew police was Otto Winzet, once employed in the Philips concern. Of Serbs there were Jovan (Joca) Nikolic, the commissar, then Nikola Nikolic, Ivan Bozicevic, Martinovic, Ljubinkovic and Djordjevic also known as Ceka..."

In the "Schedule of rules of the military commander in Serbia no. 7-8, May 31, 1941" are the "Orders relating to Jews and Gypsies", among which, among other things, state:

1. Jews
(...) Paragraph 2. Jews must report two week to ... the Serbian police registration authorities.
Paragraph 3. Jews ... must wear a yellow band on their left arm with the word "Jew" written on it.
(...) Paragraph 4. Jews may not be public servants. Their removal from all institutions must be immediately performed by the Serbian authorities.
Paragraph 5. Jews cannot be allowed to practice the professions of lawyer, physician, dentist, veterinarian and chemist.
(...) Paragraph 7. Jews are forbidden to visit theatres and cinemas.

2. Gypsies
Paragraph 18. Gypsies are considered equivalent to Jews.

Even earlier, in the "Community news" (Opstinske novine) it had been proclaimed that "jews are forbidden to appear henceforth without a yellow band".

3. The duties of the Serbian authorities
Paragraph 21. The Serbian authorities are responsible for the carrying out of the commands contained in this Order.

4. Penal Measures
Paragraph 22. Whoever resists... shall be punished with imprisonment and a monetary fine. In aggravated cases the punishment will be penal sentence or death. Belgrade, May 30, 1941. (Printed commands of the Military Commander in Serbia, No. 7-8, May 31)

Soon, thanks to various Commands, the Jews were completely deprived of their rights. They were not allowed to be editors in newspapers, academic auditors, they could not run a theatre, or a lawyer's office, a dentist's surgery, do the work of a physician, a veterinary surgeon, be the owners of educational institutions or work in them. The musicians' federation informed the Jews that their work in music was against the present rules. Jews could not be telephone subscribers or even use someone else's phone.

The following "Command" was also issued:
"All Jews resident in Belgrade must within five days give up their radios, refrigerators and electric cooling devices. The relinquishment of radios and refrigerators will take place in the building of the elementary school in Becanska street No. 8, and in this order ...
Those Jews who do not behave according to this command will be punished most severely.
President of the commune and director of the city of Belgrade Drag. Jovanovic (Agencija Rudnik)".

Sensing what it was that was ultimately awaiting them, individual Jews fled from the larger towns. Because of the flight of Jews in 1941, the quisling government issued a number of orders that again called upon the Jews to register with the authorities. One woman who survived bears witness as follows: "On the seventh of December (1941 - author) all Jews got papers delivered by Nedic's gendarmes ordering them to report the following day to the Hebrew police... It said in the paper that we should take three days' food, and as for clothing, fresh linen, and bedding, only as much as we could carry ourselves."

"All Jews are called upon to present themselves on December 12, 1941, at 8 in the morning in the courtyard of the Special Police for Jews in George Washington St. 21. Everyone may bring with him as much baggage and bedding as he can carry by himself. Apartments must be left locked up. Apartment keys must be fastened to a piece of card with the address of the apartment and the name and brought along. Whoever does not come will be most severely punished."

From all these assembly points, the Jews were led away escorted by Serbian police and German guards to concentration camps, where they were brutally put to death.

"Thus on December 8, 1941, he went to the assembly place at the building of the (Serbian - author) police for Jews in George Washington St. and ... (the number of the building varies in the witnesses' accounts, with 21 sometimes being mentioned and sometimes 23). At the assembly place there were many cars with families, and they were all taken off across the Sava to the "Sajmiste" (Fairground)."

Not even the Jewish hospital in Belgrade was spared. "The hospital was under constant supervision and was guarded by German soldiers and Ljotic's soldiers."

"The Jewish hospital at 2 Visoki Stevan St. had been founded in June or July 1941 by order of the Jewish police, which wished to stop Jews going to other hospitals. All the equipment in the hospital, down to the instruments and medicines, had been provided by the Jews themselves."

"On March 19, 1942 began the liquidation of Jews from the hospital. At the same time all the members of the families of the physicians and nurses were arrested. On March 27 all the physicians were led away."

And at the same time that members of the Jewish community in Serbia were being persecuted and murdered by the means of legislative orders signed by the president of the government of "national salvation" Milan Nedic, the minister of Internal Affairs Milan Acimovic and the head of the Belgrade police Dragi Jovanovic, on January 12, 1942, a "Regulation for the protection of animals" was announced. It had been signed by the entire Serbian government, by Prime Minister Nedic, and all ten ministers.

The Regulation states, among other things:
"An animal is mistreated by someone who causes it pain; this mistreatment is brutal if it arises from heartlessness which callously pays no attention to the pain inflicted on the animal. It is irrelevant whether the pains are inflicted deliberately or by mere negligence, for example by depriving it of food or housing it inadequately."

Meanwhile the mistreatment of human beings had become institutionalized, and deprivation of food and the heartless infliction of pain, and extermination. Those Jews who managed to flee and hide were searched for and arrested, and for every arrest a monetary reward could be obtained.
"During 1942 and until September 1944, Jews were brought to the camp at Banjica. After the capitulation of Yugoslavia they had gone and hidden in villages in Serbia, but they had been caught by Nedic's soldiers, and Ljotic's and the chetniks, and been given to the Germans, because they got a money payment for every Jews arrested. According to incomplete figures, about 455 were brought in during that period. They were killed immediately on arrival".

The so-called "Jewish question" in Serbia was astonishingly quickly settled. General Harald Turner boasted to General Loehr, the new C-in-C of the entire south east of Europe that: "Serbia (was) a country in which the question of the Jews and the question of the Gypsies was settled." (From Turner's notes for a personal report to General Loehr, August 29, 1942, Document NOKW-1846).

In a letter to the Gestapo of September 18, 1943, signed by Dragi Jovanovic, the Administration of the City of Belgrade boasted of the successes of the Serbian Special Police, which had been instrumental in arranging the disappearance of the Jews from the face of the Serbian earth:
"The administration of the city of Belgrade, with all its quarters and institutions, has for almost two and a half years impeccably performed its police service under the occupation, and with a great deal of elan and success, in a way not matched by any other police forces in the cities of occupied Europe".

Of all the places connected with the organized crime of genocide against the Jews, in which the Serbs too participated, the concentration camp Sajmiste (Fairground) by Belgrade occupied the number one position.

It was set up in December 1941, on the left bank of the Sava, in the region occupied today by New Belgrade, with the aim of the final mass destruction of the Jewish people. To this camp they brought women, children and men of all age groups from Belgrade, Sabac, Nis, Kragujevac, Smederevo, Pozarevac and other towns in Serbia.

From the figures available, historians have come to the conclusion that "over 11,000 Jews passed through the camp Sajmiste". Only a few survived. The camp was run by the German and Serbian authorities in Belgrade, as is confirmed by survivors of the camp, largely Serbs, for example Ilija Petrovic.
"... the concentration camps on Sajmiste in Belgrade, where I was imprisoned in 1941. The criminals were the same as at Banjica. There were the same masters - the Germans, Nedic's soldiers and the other Serbian fascists."

The conditions of life at Sajmiste were such that even the camp physician, the Gestapo lieutenant Dr Jung after one single tour of the camp requested a doubled ration of food. His plea was turned down. In 1942, the Germans who were in the command centre of the camp protested to the Serbian authorities about their not having sent the agreed quantity of food for the prisoners.

Dr Jasa Romano states: "After the camp administration had intervened, the Department (for social welfare and social institutions of the city authority in Belgrade - author) replied that provisions for the camp would be delivered only when all other necessities in Belgrade had been taken care of". There was great hunger, and the consequences were tragic:
... "Children died most of all, and older women..." "There were no chances of escaping from the camp, because it was surrounded by barbed wire on three sides and by the Sava on the fourth".

Concentration camps on Serbian territory were set up in Kragujevac, Sabac and Nis. At Bor Mine there was a work-camp.
"Concentration camps were set up exclusively on the territory of Serbia... The concentration camp Topovske supe was set up at the beginning of September, 1941... The Jews from Banat were brought to the camp from the previously mentioned assembly camps in Banat at the end of August, 1941... Beginning in the second half of September 1941, the Germans began to take away the inmates in groups to be shot... By the middle of October 1941, all the Jews of Banat, the men, who were in that camp, had been killed. After the liquidation of the Banat Jews, the Jews of Belgrade were brought to the camp, the men... At the beginning of December 1941 there were still about 300 Belgrade Jews left alive in the camp, and they were taken to the Sajmiste camp. After their departure the camp was run down..."

"The 'Banjica' concentration camp... The first inmates were brought to the camp as soon as July 9, 1941, even before the official command was signed for it to be set up... Svetozar Vujkovic was appointed camp commander; he had been an infamous murderer in the pre-war period, specially entrusted with arresting communists and those who sympathized with them. He stayed in the job of camp commander until the camp was run down, that is until October, 1944. His assistant was Djordje Kosmajac, who was killed by members of the resistance on March 6, 1942. He was succeeded by Prvoslav Odavic, and he by Vidosav Jeftic, with Radomir Carapic last of all. The camp administration was under the control of the Gestapo... During the first period there was a double guard round the camp: one guard composed of members of the Gestapo, and another guard composed of members of the Serbian State Guard. Later, the camp was guarded only by the Serbian State Guard... From the preserved records of the inmates of the Banjica camp, it can be seen that a total of 29,697 persons passed through this camp (21,430 men and 2,267 women). However this number is not even approximately accurate, for a great number of prisoners were immediately led away to be shot, without being entered into the record book. This was mostly the case with the Jews. There is a record of only 300 of the Belgrade Jews, who were brought into the camp at the beginning of September, 1941... The camp in Banjica was the destination for not only the Jews of Belgrade, but also for Jews from other places in Serbia, including from Backa...

It is impossible to establish even approximately how many Jews perished in this camp, for as has been mentioned, they were not entered in the book of inmates. But it is certain that a very considerable number of male Jews from Belgrade and from other places in the Serbian interior suffered in this camp... The concentration camp at Sabac (the Jewish camp)... in July, 1941 the Ortskomandatur in Sabac that is, was ordered by the Belgrade Gestapo to set up a concentration camp for the Jews living in the area. In July 1941, Jewish refugees were first of all interned in the camp...

The shooting of Jews and Gypsies from the Sabac camp was carried out on October 12 and 13, 1941, in the village of Zasavica. Those shot were buried in a communal grave. At this time about 400 Jewish males from the Sabac camp were shot, while 449 Belgrade Jews were shot on October 9 and 11 in Belgrade. Before the shooting, all their valuables were taken from them, and after the shooting their gold teeth were pulled out...

After the shooting of the Jewish men, only women and children were left in the Sabac camp. On January 26, 1941, they were moved by train to Ruma, and then walked from Ruma to Zemun, or to the Sajmiste camp, in conditions of extreme cold... After arrival at Sajmiste they were quickly liquidated...

The "Red Cross" concentration camp... In the Gestapo concept the camp was intended for the internment of male Jews from Nis and its surroundings, to be hostages, then for members of the resistance and captured partisans... After the Jewish men had been shot, women and children were brought into the camp, but at the beginning of March, 1942, they were taken to the Sajmiste camp, where they were soon killed...

At the beginning of March, 1942, Jews from several smaller surrounding towns were brought to Nis. The men were immediately shot at Bubanj, and the women and children taken to the Sajmiste. The number of Jewish men is unknown, while there were about 70 women and children.

In July, 1942 Jews from Leskovac, Zajecar and Jagodina were brought to Nis. The men were immediately shot at Bubanj, and the women and children taken to the Sajmiste. In parallel with the physical destruction of the Jewish people, the Germans and the Serbian quisling government organized the theft of all Jewish property. So that the theft should be the more effective, an order was first of all proclaimed requiring the registration of all companies the owners of which were Jews:
"Jewish business companies which after April 5, 1941 were still Jewish must register with the competent district commands by June 15, 1941. That district command is competent in whose district private persons have their places of residence or juridical persons their headquarters".

Soon all Jews had to report their wealth to the authorities, which was announced by all the papers in Serbia:
"Registration of the wealth of Jews"
Registration of the wealth of Jews and their spouses is carried out, according to paragraph 11 of the Regulation that relates to Jews and Gypsies, in the City Authority-Legal Department (Cika Ljubina 20/II, every day from 8 to 12, and from 15 to 17 hrs".

Jewish property was to belong to a new owner by a decision of the Nedic government:
"Regulation concerning the belonging of Hebrew property to Serbia"
"On the basis of article 1 of the Order for changes in the existing regulations and the passing of new ones, Cabinet Number 1118 of September 16, 1939, the Cabinet has made an order by which the property of the Hebrews belongs to Serbia. This says:
Paragraph 1. The property of those Hebrews who were citizens of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia on April 15, 1941 and which lies inside Serbia belongs to Serbia without any compensation." Apart from this, the Jews, as allegedly mainly responsible for the war had to pay the German government "war damages" of 5,916,904 dinars. They also had to pay into the account of the Belgrade city administration 4,834,231 dinars, and to the Belgrade commune another 1,000,000 dinars. The chief role in the sale of Jewish real and other property was confided to the (Serbian) State Mortgage bank:
"The Germans entrusted the State Mortgage Bank with the handling of Jewish estates, and the whole value of their estates was made over to the Serbian state... All the money that it obtained by the sale of estates it credited to the account entitled "Administrative Headquarters of Jewish property-real estate".

Serbia: Quisling Collaboration with the Nazis in WW2

Mr. V. Joze,
Thank you very much for deeply emotional testimony from vel respected Righteous Mrs. Ljubica Stefan.
Hope dies last!
Jos nas ima! Srdacno vas sve pozdravljam,
Bob

lies

first of all it wasn't "Serbian Police" it was called Secret Police, it was made for extermination of nationalist and communist agents in occupied Serbia.

Implicating that Serbs murdered Jews is just simply idiotic, but when it's comming from a NDH simpathiser than its just a cheap try to blame someone else for their own crimes (The Independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna Država Hrvatska; NDH) was a puppet state of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany during World War II).

Serbs shared the same grimm faith of their Jewish neighbours, something any Jew, born in pre-war Yugoslavia can testify.

THOMPSON'S 2004 BOAST/CONFESSION THAT HE SANG "JASENOVAC" SONG

THOMPSON'S JANUARY 2004 BOAST/CONFESSION THAT HE SANG HOLOCAUST-CELEBRATING JASENOVAC SONG

As discussed in detail here:
http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/times1.htm#sing
in late 2003 and early 2004, the website index.hr exposed that Thompson had publicly and for many years (including at major concerts) sung two songs celebrating the Holocaust. One is about the Jasenovac death camp complex. It rejoices in this "slaughterhouse" (the song's word) run by Ustasha "butchers" (the song’s word). In it Thompson declares "I AM USTASHA" - i.e., a clerical fascist. That song is called "Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara" Its lyrics are posted in full with analysis here:
http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/times1.htm#reb

The other one expresses love for the leaders of the Croatian SS (as in Nazi SS) Black Legion. Its title translates, "Here Comes Dawn, Here Comes Day."

At first Thompson tried to evade the accusation, saying he couldn’t remember whether he had sung these songs (a ludicrous attempt at evasion, if I may say) but then, after index.hr posted links to Internet audio files of him singing these songs, he did an about face and posted on his website a letter mocking index.hr for telling everybody what was already well known - of course he had sung these songs. He wasn't ashamed of it. He was proud of it. The Serbs and commies made him do it. And so on.

Emperor’s Clothes www.tenc.net backed up his home page at that time. The backup is posted here.
http://tenc.net/croatia/thompson/perkconfess.htm

You can access the three (Serbo-Croatian) Index.hr exposes from here
http://emperors-clothes.com/croatia/times1.htm#9

Emperor’s Clothes also has links to Croatian discussion lists and other Croatian sources that quoted his boast/confession, some quite favorably (i.e., cheering him on) in 2004.

Here is the beginning of his "dear friends" letter, translated into English:

[Translation of beginning of Thompson's statement starts here]

"Dear friends!

"First of all, I would like to emphasize to you that my official website is the only true source of information about me and my opinion and you can find this in articles edited by the administrator.

"We are witnesses of yet another insane campaign, which, because of their election defeat, hysterical Communists and their collaborators are starting against me.

"This time they have discovered warm water; They have 'discovered' that I've been singing songs like 'Here Comes Dawn...', 'Jasenovac...' and similar.

"I am not the author of these songs, but I have been singing them, which is well known to all of us, during a certain period everywhere in Croatian squares and in halls without hiding, therefore this makes their sensational discovery ridiculous to say the least.

[Translation of beginning of Thompson's statement starts here]

The text may be read in Serbo-Croatian here:
http://tinyurl.com/25t7c2

By experimenting with 'strings' from his letter, one can find substantial quotes from it on the Internet. For example, this from a Croatian news web site on Jan. 9, 2004, quoting the part of his letter where he says his singing of these two songs is no secret.

http://tinyurl.com/yskxtb

Case closed.

For your amusement

http://nbc4.com/news/14516979/detail.html

"Cry Big Bad Wolf".

www.nbc4.com/news/14516979/detail.html

To jared and Samantha

Get "Judgment" the video proving Bosnian Death camp photos were faked? another example of serbian propaganda at it's best

STOP THE CONCERT

THIS CONCERT NEEDS TO BE CANCELED WE HAD ENOUGH OF PAIN AND SUFFERING IN CROATIA.… SO MANY SERBS DIED SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND STOP THIS EVIL FROM PERFORMING!

Serbian suffering?

I suggest that you think long and heard about:
- the 8000 Muslim men and boys that were 'slaughtered' like animals in Srebrenica, Bosnia by Serbian special forces
- the 283 patients who were all given a bullet in the head and buried in a mass grave at Ovcare, Croatia
- the thousands of Albanians killed in Kosovo before you try to ask someone for sympathy.
- the over 15000 women who were raped by Serbian soldiers in Bosnia....

Serbs are guilty of the worst atrocities in Europe since the Holocaust. If you need to see evil I suggest you look in your own backyard.

are you normal?

Where did you get those numbers?

1. in Srebrenica muslim sources say 7000, and since today 1600 bodies were found- only men and half decayed uniforms and army boots, so much about "inocent" civilians. And dont get me started on muslim crimes during '92 '93 '94 '95 against Serbian population sorounding Srebrenica city.
there is a Serb memorial site with 3200 graves near Bratunac, but serbian victimes are just not interesting enough-right?

2. those "patients" were soldiers, wounded in action, murdering POW's is a crime, and here i aggree. i hope that those responsible will be accused and punished.
But also dont forget ethnic cleansing of Serbs, in Vukovar, by Croatian Zbor Narodne Garde or ZNG (a paramilitary unit) made prior to JNA attack on Vukovar city. Night raides, people missing, lists of Serbs designated for elimination such as families of JNA officers, policemen, prominent serbs, doctors, lawyers etc

3. thousands of albanians, thousands of serbs, but to you some victims are more important than others.
did you all forget albanian crematorium in Klecka-

"Arrested members of terrorist organization that calls itself Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), Mr. Ljuan and Bekim Mazreku, from Malisevo, informed us that in broader region of Klecka, KLA holds some ethnic Serbs and Albanians as hostages. Mazrekus have also said that during the month of July, KLA executed 22 Serbs - including three women and two children. This according to the Ministry's report. The report also states: "During investigation we concluded that terrorist have murdered the kidnapped Serbs and then used chlorine and high temperature crematorium furnace to delete the traces of their heinous crime. The crime is evident from burned remnants of human bodies we have found"

this is just one of many sites of KLA crimes, but who cares, it's Serbs, they must be punished for being anti-nazi, for fighting Germany and their WW2 allies Croats, muslims and Albanians.

4. 15000 raped??!! sources? maybe "independent" Saudi reaserch or Al-Jazeera.

read this:

SECURITY COUNCIL
Distribution: GENERAL
A/47/813
S/24991
18 December 1992
ORIGINAL: English
Depositions of Serbian women given to the State Commission for War Crimes

Page #4 of the above document...

Extracts from the confession by [a Muslim] Alija Selimagic of the crimes committed in the villages around Bosanski Brod with a facsimile of the part containing his signature.

RAPINGS

Some three days thereafter I went with the same group of people to Sijekovac [Bosnia]. Before we set off, Enes Havic [a Muslim] and Becir Hodzic [also a Muslim] told us that we were going to abduct Serbian girls. We came to Sijekovac in a van and Havic's car. Once there, we started from the "Zidic" store and the bus station in direction of Derventa raiding houses. A number of girls, i.e. younger women, were raped in the houses in which they were found and, as far as I remember, 28 Serbian women were kidnapped and taken to Slavonski Brod [Croatia] in the van.

I was the first to break into a house with Enes Havic, Becir Hodzic and Sead Mujcin (Aga), where we found a man and a woman (both about 50 years old) and their 23-year-old daughter. First, we tied her father and mother and then began to rape their daughter. I was the first to rape her, assisted by Becir Hodzic and Enes Havic. After me, she was raped by the other three and we raped her mother too. Thereafter, I cut her mother's throat and Enes Havic did the same to her father.

We took the girl to the van. Becir Hodzic drove the girl off while we continued raiding other houses. When Hodzic came back and rejoined the group, he told us that the van was crowded and that the girls had been driven to Slavonski Brod. When the van came back again, my group abducted six or seven more girls who, too, were driven to Slavonski Brod. I do not know their names or the families they belong to. Where we found the girls' parents or relatives, we tied and left them in their homes. I do not know if and how many relatives of the abducted girls the people from other groups killed. When the action was completed, Becir Hodzic told us that the girls were taken to Slavonski Brod [Croatia] and placed in the brothels to cater for the needs of the Croatian army. I remember very well that in the end I, Hodzic, Havic and Mujcin kidnapped a girl for each of us and took them to Gornje Kolibe. We kidnapped a Serbian girl, M.M., who worked at a shop in Gornje Kolibe and three Moslem girls, Z.J., J.C. and E.C. We caught them in the street. We took them to Kolibe in the van driven by Enes Havic. I took Z.J. to my home, where I held her for three or four days. At first, she refused to have intercourse with me and I threatened to kill her, whereupon she consented. Thereafter, I let her go home at her request.

SECURITY COUNCIL
Distribution: GENERAL
A/47/813
S/24991
18 December 1992
ORIGINAL: English
Depositions of Serbian women given to the State Commission for War Crimes

Pages #5,6,7,8 and 9 of the above document...

Deposition made by J.I., a nurse from Brcko [Bosnia], of her own accord on 20 October 1992 at the Gynaecology-Obstetrics Clinic in Belgrade

On 12 January 1992, I was visiting my aunt in Germany, where I was spending the second half of my annual leave. I left Germany on 26 January. On 28 January we were stopped by [Croat] police on the highway, a few kilometres away from Sisak [Croatia]; they checked our passports and six of us, four girls and two men, all young, were forced to step out. The driver was told to drive on. He complained and he was beaten and maltreated and eventually had to leave without us.

We were taken to the police station somewhere near Sisak, where we were split into two groups. One was sent to Slavonska Pozega and the other to Slavonski Brod [all in Croatia]. I was assigned to the group which went to Slavonski Brod.

When we arrived there, it was clear to all of us that it was a camp, that all kinds of atrocities were inflicted upon prisoners, but we were completely powerless. It was no use saying anything or protesting, since things could only get worse for us. We were left alone for two days.

After successful operations on the front, they came to us for rest and pleasure. That day I met many women from Kninska Krajina who were imprisoned, mistreated, tortured and some of them even disfigured. Some among them were very beautiful women. Younger women were put aside. Later on, we realized that they made it their purpose to increase the birth rate of Croatian children.

A group of younger women like myself were used for their pleasure and sometimes were brutalized.

One day, a group of newly arrived women, including myself, had a nightmarish experience. Five or six men on top of me and I blacked out. I could not believe it was happening to me and I could not remember anything until daybreak. After that experience, we were mistreated, abused and invariably raped day in and day out.

Sometimes they let us be for two or three days. When this happened, we were given no water, no food, no nothing. If food was given to us at all, it was so poor that not even animals would eat it.

I will remember a very striking, and very distressing for me, incident which occurred in Slavonski Brod and which is occasionally the cause of my bad dreams when I see their ugly faces.

One night, they came after midnight. They were very angry since they had to withdraw. We were placed in a hangar storing petrol barrels. We took these barrels out as they were empty and had no use. So, we slept in them. Each of us was given only a thin blanket. I had nothing else on me except for the clothes they brought me in. All our belongings were taken away from us earlier.

That night they came to our hangar, they connected a few empty oil barrels and by taking one woman at a time, four of them molested her. My turn came. One tried to cut off my arm by axe. I still have a scar there, while the other was already inside me. A third one stabbed my leg and I fainted. They left me naked on these barrels all night. I was hungry, thirsty and terribly cold.

When they found out that many women were pregnant, myself included, they did not disturb us from time to time for the benefit of Croatian children. They had nothing against Serbian women bearing children by them, since fathers are Croats and therefore the children will be Croats too.

At that time, the oil refinery was on fire and we were also used as fire fighters. In this total chaos, I had been detained in Slavonski Brod since 28 January and was detained in the oil refinery till 22 April.

On the latter date, they transported us in trucks to the Sava river and therefrom to the other bank by boats. They moved us to the Odzak [Bosnia] detention centre guarded by the joint forces of two nations: Croats and Muslims.

They knew that there were many pregnant women among us, so they grouped us in a building which used to be, as I heard, a school. At times, they dragged us to other buildings and used us as a shield against the attacking Serbian military units, i.e. "Krajisnici".

Many of us pregnant women were left alone, since our pregnancy was advanced (four or five months).

I will now tell you what happened once.

After four or five hours of raping and torture in this school, they brought the imprisoned Serbs, young and old alike, ordering them to lick us after the obscene acts.

On last 16 July, the black legionaries or black shirts, whatever they called them, came asking us for any hidden money or gold as ransom which would save our lives. Until the very end we did not know what was going on and what made them act that way.

When I left Germany I had DM 800 on me. I hid DM 500 in the sole of my boot because of the customs and the rest of DM 300 were in my handbag, which was taken from me when I was arrested. They took all my belongings, so that during the whole period of my detention in the camp I was only in a blouse, a bodice, a denim jacket, a pair of blue jeans, one piece underwear, one pair of stockings and boots.

The DM 500 I sewed in my jeans, so I had money to buy out my life.
[NOTE: The person was abducted on the trip home from Germany. It was customary for Yugoslavs coming home from abroad to hide money from the Yugoslav customs].

We were taken out of the school one at a time. There was a man with a box sitting outside. Those who had nothing of value were lined up on one side and those who had some money on the other.

Those who had money actually bailed themselves out and we were later exchanged. We had no idea that life was worth that much money you had in your pocket, or a ring or DM 50 or any other amount you had on you at the moment.

In Odzak we were received by the Krajina corps. That night they let us have a good sleep. We were given food, drink and cigarettes. It was the first time after six months that I drank juice and milk. I was a non-smoker for four years, but I lit a cigarette then. I could not believe my eyes and ears that I was free, that my head was still on my shoulders.

We were then sent to the hospital in Bosanski Samac. Once there, I asked to be sent to my hometown of Brcko, where I arrived on 18 July.

The following month I was treated in the Brcko hospital and I asked the doctors to terminate my five-and-a-half-month pregnancy.

But the doctor in Brcko was not for termination of my pregnancy because of my poor health. I had lost 30 kilos [more than 60 pounds] in five months.

I heard nothing of my parents. I had a father, mother, a brother, sister-in-law and their children.

They all disappeared. I had no news of them. My friends from the "Srpska Biljenska Garda" tried to help me. They tried to trace the whereabouts of my parents, brother, sister-in-law and their children, but with no success. After a month's time, they helped me to visit my house, which was hit by three shells. I found some of my personal effects, which I packed into several bags. I also found out that my 74-year-old aunt was still alive and I called on her. I took over to her place my bare necessities. I also found some money at home and decided to visit my cousin in Belgrade.

She welcomed me and later left for Germany. So, I am presently alone in her apartment.

I went to see a doctor for advice on my health and pregnancy. Two doctors from Zemun [Serbia] recommended the Gynaecology-Obstetrics Clinic, where I was admitted in late August and early September. I previously contacted the Health Centre of Stari Grad Municipality, after which I was hospitalized here to see what could be done for me.

Thanks to Dr. Krstic, I am here today and thanks to all his fellow doctors I managed to find my peace of mind, if this is possible at all.

A baby girl was born and put up for adoption while I myself have to fight for my own life.

I found out that my parents are safe and sound and that they are somewhere around the town of Prijedor. My brother is on the front. So I have calmed down. But I still have no information about my sister-in-law and her children.

I will tell you about some other events.

In Slavonski Brod [Croatia] one man was called "Plavi", they all had nicknames and we had no idea what their real names were or where they came from.

His specialty was to burn down an eyebrow of a beautiful woman or to cut it out along its lines. He also liked to bite off a piece of ear or to gouge out an eye. He did all of these things together or at least one of them.

There was a woman who came to Slavonski Brod camp in the seventh month of her pregnancy. They tore out her belly and took a live baby out of her womb.

Once, I don't know the reason why, something was stolen or someone was falsely accused, one soldier crushed the skull of a 40-year-old Serb by a rifle butt.

In Odzak, two Muslims circumcised all men without exception according to the Muslim ritual.

Many women had their finger cut off for a ring or their ears for ear rings.

Once I saw the lower lip of a very beautiful girl from Kninska Krajina being shredded by a man called "Crni" who previously raped and molested the girl. He enjoyed it.

We seldom saw other imprisoned men. We did not meet them often, and when we did they had visible marks of strangulation by metal wire, knife cuts on their necks, heads; some were with no eyes, or a hand, etc.

One, like an executioner, enjoyed to cut off a leg to the knee by axe, and let the bleeding man die.

There was a warehouse in Odzak where Serbs were imprisoned for 10 days with no water or food and left to urinate and empty there. They were mistreated and tortured day and night. Each night the bodies of two or three victims were removed to cover up the crimes.

Sometimes, they poured petrol on a cloth fixed to a stick and burned the skin of a naked man or woman. The more the victim screamed, the more they enjoyed it.

And another example. An 11-year-old girl, who was daily abused, had to serve them as a waitress completely naked.

This is all I can tell about myself and what happened to me. I find it very difficult to even bring myself to talk about this.

Belgrade, 20 October 1992

Deposition made by J.I. (Signed)
Deposition taken by Milena Vasiljevic
Senior Stenographer at the Federal Assembly.

Remark: Gave birth to a baby girl who was put up for adoption.

It is sad that creators of biggest conc-camps in Europe afther Germans are accusing Serbs for genocide. In Serbia today you have 28 nationalities living, in peace, while Croatia today is almost minority-free.

Bosnian Serbs convicted of rape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1184313.stm

Bosnian Serbs convicted of rape

Dragoljub Kunarac - 28 years in prison

Three Bosnian Serbs have been found guilty of rape and other crimes including torture and enslavement by the International War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague.

The three accused are not ordinary soldiers whose morals were merely loosened by the hardships of war

Judge Florence Mumba

The case, relating to offences against Muslim women in the Bosnian town of Foca, marks the first time that the tribunal has considered rape as a crime against humanity.

The crimes took place during the first months of the conflict in Bosnia- Hercegovina, after Serb forces had overrun the town and separated Muslim women and men into separate camps.

In the first verdict, Dragoljub Kunarac was found guilty on several counts of rape and torture and was sentenced to 28 years imprisonment.

'Glaring abuse'

"You abused and ravaged Muslim women because of their ethnicity, and from among their number you picked whoever you fancied," presiding Judge Florence Mumba told Kunarac.

The destruction of Foca, April 1992

She said he had shown the most glaring abuse of their dignity and human rights.

In the second verdict, Radomir Kovac was found guilty of rape and enslavement and given a 20 year sentence.

The third defendant, Zoran Vukovic, was found guilty of rape and torture and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

"The three accused are not ordinary soldiers whose morals were merely loosened by the hardships of war," Judge Mumba told the court.

"They thrived in the dark atmosphere of the dehumanisation of those believed to be enemies."

Heart of darkness

In 1992 and 1993, when the events occured, human rights groups named Foca, in the south-east of the country, as the heart of darkness, where the women and girls, some as young as 12, were kept at a school, a sports hall, a motel and private homes.

Vukovic: 12 years for rape and torture

The indictment said that they were subjected to a pattern of sexual assault by Bosnian Serb soldiers.

Judge Mumba supported that view: "Rape was used by members of the Bosnian Serb armed forces as an instrument of terror."

The defence had argued that there was no evidence to prove this. The accused, who listened in silence to translations of the verdicts through headphones, had denied the charges against them.

During the 11-month trial, Muslim women, identified only by numbers, testified behind screens against the three men.

'Not intrinsic' to war

Some broke down as they testified.

One who was 15-years-old when the atrocities were committed told the court, "I think that for the whole of my life, all my life, I will feel the pain that I felt then."

Some of the women allegedly suffered gynaecological damage or had to give birth after being raped at Foca.

Foca is now in the part of Bosnia-Hercegovina administered by Bosnian Serbs, and no Muslims have returned to live there.

In 1993, there were reports of rape from all sides in the Bosnian conflict.

A European commission estimated there had been 20,000 rape victims.

Four other men indicted for rape crimes at Foca are still at large.

The human rights group Amnes